Posted by: cranky | August 30, 2007

Does Evil Exist?

The German university professor challenged his  students with this question:

Did God create everything that exists? ‘
 
A student bravely replied ‘Yes, he did!’
 
‘God created everything?’ the professor asked.
 
‘Yes sir,’ the student replied.
 
The professor answered, ‘If God created everything, then God created
 evil since evil exists, and according to the principal that our works define who we are, then God is evil.’ The professor was quite pleased with himself  and boasted to the students that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth.
 
Another student raised his hand and said, ‘Can I ask you a question professor?’
 
‘Of course,’ replied the professor.
 
The student stood up and asked, ‘Professor does cold exist?’
 
The professor replied ‘Of course it exists. Have you never been cold?’
 
The students snickered at the young man’s question.
 
The young man replied, ‘In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. 
  Everybody or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy,  and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy.  Absolute zero (- 460 degrees F) is the total absence of heat. Cold does not  exist. We have created t his word to describe how we feel if we have no heat.
 
The student continued. ‘Professor, does darkness exist?’
 
The professor responded, ‘Of course it does,’
 
The student replied, ‘Once again you are wrong sir. Darkness does not
 exist either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact we can use Newton’s prism to break white light
into many colors and study the various wave lengths of each color. You cannot
 measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn’t this correct? Darkness is a term >>used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present.’
 
Finally the young man asked the professor. ‘Sir, does evil exist?’
 
Now uncertain, the professor responded, ‘Of course as I have already
 said. We see it every day. It is in the daily example of man’s inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world.  These manifestations are nothing else but evil.’
 
To this the student replied, ‘Evil does not exist sir,or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God.
 God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God’s love present in his heart. It’s like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light.’
 
The professor sat down.
 
The young man’s name — Albert Einstein.

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Responses

  1. cranky-
    well , i think u r right , atleast for that as evil does not has
    seperate identity.But i want to add more as u wrote that
    “Evil is simply the absence of God” but what really god is?
    and i don’t say about anyone else, but atleast for me i can say that it is just something that we r unaware of in reality. Actually whenever we unable to explain any thing
    we just simply suppose that some holy- one out there who is controlling this world .We r using god as someone
    who is always helping us when we are in trouble.

    The other thing is that ones u are talking about god and the same time u are talking about Einstein, physics and science , that means u r using science to define evil or something.Evil has its own definition in everyone’s prespective , some thing is evil is may not be evil for someone else. So it is we, the humans which defines some thing good or bad.We are the one who defines god,
    some one is doing his duties with honesty is more better then some one giving preaching about honesty and evil.

    well i m concluding that evil and god are two different faces of a same thing , it is upon we whom would we choose.

  2. Quantumfoam, I actually copied and pasted the post from an email. Einstein is the student having the dicussion with the professor. I have read that among physicists, unlike many other branches of science, they have a far higher percentage of believers in God because there is so much that cannot be explained by science and can only be explained as being the hand of God at work.

    Do I believe in God? Absolutely. I would no longer be alive were it not for God’s intercession. The thing about God is that He provides man with free will — the freedom to believe or not, to be good or evil. It might be a bit arrogant to presume that man defines God, the Supreme Being, rather than the other way around.

    Thanks for coming by and commenting.

  3. Cranky,

    I think that quantum was simply expression a more deistic sort of faith. Maybe not atheism, but the chips fall god of deistic tradition.

    Good story.

  4. Quantum,

    I believe in God and find it offensive (although to each his/ her own) when people don’t. I say this because on a boating “race” once, I had a discussion with someone who proclaimed that he did not believe in God. When we were struck by a wave and this person fell overboard, the first word out of his mouth was “Oh God..”

    God is within us and closer to us than we can imagine. We were created on the absolute belief in God. He breathed into Adam and gave him life. But that’s another discussion.

    I do have some points/ questions to make/ ask:

    1. First close your eyes and think. About anything. Done? Alright, does thought exist? I can claim that one who says “NO” is thoughtless. Similarly, sanity and insanity (the absence of sanity) can be argued. Your “thought” is really faster than the speed of light! Think of the farthest planet out there and you are “already there.” Think of the Sun and your thought is already there even when light from the sun takes a little over 8 minutes to reach earth.

    2. In a recent discussion with an atheist or whatever we want to call someone who does not believe in God’s existence, he stated that when he operates (he’s a surgeon) it’s amazing how the human organs are organized in the body.. and stopped… then he said, “it’s as if someone placed them in such perfect fit in there.” Now who is this someone? God of course. Can nature just produce these miraculous existing beings whether it is us or any form of life? There MUST be a God who created these wonders.

    You may choose to believe what you want to believe. But I find it amusing that man (or woman) are always so argumentative about such topics. Even Einstein had a point that God exists. Do we have the same IQ level to debate someone like Einstein? Do we have the same IQ level that is required to understand who God is? The signs are all there. They cannot be denied.

    Peace.

    ATW

  5. Regardless whether evil is an entity or simply the absence of God, the manifestations of it, the actions committed as a result of the entity or absence of God, do exist.

  6. Attending, 6 thousand years of social indoctrination, and the ubiquitous use of the word god and the name of jesus and allah make it more of a colloquial expression, rather than an invocation.

    would you have been less offended if they said “oh S@#T?” or oh “F@#K?”

    I’m personaly an atheist, but I not only respect, but actually in many ways, envy the faithful.

    Is that offensive?

  7. Wicked, a guy I went to school with would get really, really angry if someone took the Lord’s name in vain. I tend to become very disappointed in someone who continually does that or does that in order to provoke someone. Having said that, I still like South Park.

    I actually have a physical reponse to hearing someone take the Lord’s name in vain in which my stomach cramps. Lapsed Catholic, what can I say.

  8. That story has apparently been around for some time, but only recently has Einstein been attributed as the young man.

    http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/e/einstein-god.htm

    http://www.snopes.com/religion/einstein.asp

    …and so on.

    But—

    I still believe in what the story teaches.

    here’s a good essay about the nature of Einstein’s belief, and why God allows evil in the world:

    http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/einstein.html

  9. Cranky, I think your spam bucket ate my comment.

  10. Brought your comment back, NiceDeb.

    I thought I had seen something about this story being embellished. At any rate, I want to believe the story and I would have loved to have been in a class where a professor gets punched by a Marine or a SEAL for mocking God.

  11. NiceDeb, the God And Science link is awfully good.

    Thanks! 😛

  12. attendingtheworld :
    1 : the possible answer to ur 1st question is that u r saying that mind travels faster than light . first of all i want to make u know that physics predicts thing that can travels faster than light, but still not sure if they can used for transfer any thing(communication), and research is going on.Now comes to ur answer , how can u thing that u r on a particular planet or particular place , it is ur past exprience and perceptions which makes u to think how something might looks , if u don’t have any past exprience than ur mind does not make any sense of anything for the first time.How can u say that u mind has landed on particular planet , if u say so iam sure that the picture u r looking at as the planet in your mind is totally got the topological features of what u have exprienced in past through various things that related to a planet and it is might possible that the particular planet looks totally different in real.
    could your mind think of how looks inside blackhole if so please share that exprience!!!

    2:answer to ur 2nd question , if u read the theory of evolution than u can really think how this type of complex mechanism evolve from a very simple and primitive ones. the nature it self is a choosing the better.As the computer u r using is not that much complex initially , it is the hardwork of engineers , mathematicians and scientist that make is complex with passage of time, similarly it is hardwork of nature (now does not say that nature is god) that makes complex things evolve with time.

    actually u will be surprised to know that i do believe in god , much rigid belief than urs but the thing is that i believe it as a absolute truth and my aim i s to find the that truth and u r not looking at the truth as if u cannot explain any thing u says that this is created by god and howcome people like us can understand it. Haven’t u heared about people looking for enlightment what that’s really means ? i think is is there way to find the truth of the world.

  13. quantumfoam – it could be ‘future memory’ as well as past. Quantum information theories and beyond 🙂

  14. “read the theory of evolution.”

    That actually makes, no sense what so ever.

    I was on your side, but that was just way too pedantic.

  15. lovethewind:
    yes , u r right it could be future memory , but using the word ” future” might makes it little bit confusing to all of people . And coz this future aspect is not fully explained by theories (atleast for normal understanding ) or u can say it is under research so i does not use that thing.

    wickedpinto:
    actually darwin’s theory is not the only theory of evoution but it is one of the main theory which initiates the whole session of evolution and by the way it is not pedantic ,it is on u ,weather u believe it or not .

    the thing that i want to say is that we need not to use the word “God” for explaining things which r not explainable, but we have to really search for the true answer and the true natue behind every thing.
    If God is there then he gave u a awesome brain then why r u not using it . Science does not have any serious problem with God , but it has a serious problem with the superstition and blind beliefs.

  16. Time is relative though. Past and future are termed such because it is our way of comprehending it. Maybe string theory can’t be tested (yet) but quantum theory has been.

    That being said, I wish they’d test it and we could use it!

  17. (I’m being facetious here. Though, it would be cool if we could take advantage of strings.)

  18. lovesthewind:
    it is true that the string theory cannot be tested directly (atleast in near future)but their indirect testing might be possible in the near future and if it gives satisfactory results then it is a holy grail for physics.

  19. I’m no physicist, but I find theoretical physics fascinating. Not having background or formal education in physics, my comments and ideas might be naive, but I find it difficult to buy into string theory requiring acceptance of multiple dimensions as they regard parallel universes. Again, I return to the concept of time, instead.

    I wish there were a modern day Algonquin. Where writers and philosophers could meet to discuss a variety of ideas. I think we’ll probably be able to prove someday, what we term today as strings, and how they resonate across time and space. And in my thoughts, time weighs as more relative than all the theories of space and dimensions.

    Again, I am really naive about these subjects. But is fascinating to ponder …

  20. lovesthewind:
    actually these concepts are not easy to understand specially with nil physics background but that does not means that this is a science fiction, it is true infact not all but atleast most of it .The only problem is our brain which is not meant to prepare for these concepts .


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